SSJ4 how it works part 2 and some other ideas

[SwaggedGode]

so i got some more ideas for this welp lets start as you seen when vegita and goku fused they gained new techique spirit mind shot similar to spirit shot and spirit air palm it is pretty OP you can attack him from long distances but it is not that op for dmg tho also when you transform into golden ape you can upgrade your ssj skill to 2 more points only availble in the form soo when you updrage to 7 you are albe to access ssj4 but slower to transform and weaker but you can gain the form more powerful and less time consuming by getting your friends to help you transform into it similar to ssjg form but it is the original thing (lmao dbs copied dbgt and) so when you upgrade to 8 then you can access it freely but it will be the similar to friends helping you powerful but if you want the full power of it then simply get your friends to help again and it is really strong form it doesnt charge so much ki similar to ssj full power but it charges less

now lets talk about more for the skills ssj4 can get exclusive skills like spirit mind shot while in fusion or you can just get alot of mind and ki power to get it you are also granted usage of big bang kamehameha 10x kamehameha and other attacks also grants you usage of powerful techiques that required alot of ki to use for less like dragon fist and spirit bomb but more powerful

so you are thinking IT IS OP FORM AND THIS IDEA SUCKS but let me explain what is the nerf behind this there is cooldown to the form when you run out of ki or exit it multiply times it wont let you transform back into ssj forms for a while but grants you temporary stats boost of ssj2 so it wont be a pain to deal with that

now lets talk about ssjb it not suppose to be so strong form you are asking why? well you can just go to ssjg form to get stats boosts it will give you 50% stat boost if you have unlocked ssj3 of course it will give you only 1 time and it is much stronger form it will increase the power like 2 minutes for example and ssjg will be stronger than ssjb and it will charge about nothing but it will get nerf that you cant transform into it if you dont wait 3 minecraft days

ssjb will get ki regen some small ki regen and not as powerful like ssjg but it will charge your ki the nerf is 10 minutes usage only and everytime you exist the form it will get less than 1 minute how to restore it? wait 1 minecraft day to restore 3 minutes that will prevent people spamming ssjb like crazy because of ki regen

and my final idea Moves storage i have talk about it but i have just rewritten the idea here so the better mind you got the more skills you can have

that is all folks

Hide the hate peope hide it…

[FlamesWrath]

SSJ4 wasn’t obtained via the use of various people putting their strength together. In fact, it was the fact he learned to control Golden Oozaru.

Also, transformation strength is configurable in the mod and will always be. No reason to bring it up unless you’re talking about base strength. Also, what’s with the thing about SSJG being stronger then SSJGSSJ? SSJGSSJ was stated to be stronger but SSJG is quicker and with less stamina drain.

Though I like the idea about SSJ4 getting unique Ki uses when fused. Perhaps you could even make a config option where you can make certain transformations give higher multipliers when fused (For example, SSJ4 having a stronger fusion multiplier then SSJGSSJ).

[SwaggedGode]

also you didnt ever watched gt so you dont know what im talking about

[FlamesWrath]

Proof I’ve never watched GT?

Golden Oozaru Goku was snapped out of his rampage by Pan. Due to this, he got SSJ4.

[SwaggedGode]

ssjg is stronger than ssjb for god sakes ssjg has powerboost look at the facts and ssj4 has states first one is control of golden great ape gives you access to weaker ssj4 when people give you 50% power it can transform into ssj4 but more powerful since they gave you ki and i dont even have to explain all this it is quite obvious

[Gabriel Santos Botelho Meles]

SSG It is not stronger Stronger than the blue and the cord You Can not change it Live In reality, buddy

[SwaggedGode]

Gabriel live in reality uyou can change the power of the form but this is just an idea and you donthave any proofs that this idea cannot change something pretty much 99.9 can happen boi

[KoolaidMan]

Locking their hands together around ss4 goku was literally just giving him a powerboost lol, ss4 is obtained through golden great being controlled, and idk where you got it in your mind that SSG is stronger than Super Saiyan God Ki added onto Super Saiyan Ki making it Super Saiyan Blue, It’s like saying base form Goku is stronger than Super Saiyan Goku essentially.

[SwaggedGode]

sigh why is there so many people that dont understand what im talking about grown ups are surely naive

[Trainer Red]

You people are cancerous.

[SwaggedGode]

i said SSJB not ssjg ki ssjb is the controlled version of ssjg ifyou like to search it on youtube there is plenty theories and also ssjg can be spammed for powerboost pretty much so just get alot of strong god people from saiyan race and you will get power of a god pretty much that could explain how powerful god form is and also god form is more powerful cuz you cant control the power out put so it gives more power over time JSUT FUCKING CHECK YOUTUBE DONT TRY TO CORRECT ME WHEN THERE IS A TON OF PEOPLE ALREADY TALKING AOUT THIS ;-;

[Mint]

lmaooo, he’s probably talking about the water tank theory, dubbed the most retarded shit of all time. Like, the guy who made this up thinks golden oozaru and oozaru have the same multiplier.

I suggest not continuing this pointless debate, every single thing he says makes no sense and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t know enough english to actually understand our arguements. Don’t feed the cancer mkay?

[SwaggedGode]

hey mint flavour asshole i said ton not watertank to be specific and i have fucking correct you and i understand your simply english mate why are you making the other people bad when you misunderstood the infomation m8 also a fact why did goku used ssjg when he could just go into ssjb that proves my point retard

[Mint]

i said “pro-

Yeh dud u totally teachd me a lesn there dud so smart w0ww, sorr for cometin dud your rigt, SSJB < SSJGG

[IAmRaptor]

Why Goku would maintain SSJG while fighting alongside Hit and then shortly jump into SSJB if SSJG>SSJB ?
It’d means he uses less power to pack a decisive attack ? And then switches back to a form to that requires more energy for the rest of the fight ? Dude, makes no sense !
Also, pure commercial logic : promotting a form that is less powerful is stupid. If SSJG>SSJB then they should have kept DBS goin’ with SSJG instead of SSJB, but it ain’t the case.
Oh and last thing : YT vids aren’t official, so even if they are well built and thought, as long as nothing official is released upon that topic (which won’t happen cuz pretty sure they ain’t givin’ a shit ’bout that), they will just stay nothing more than theories ( PS : I haven’t watched the vids cuz I needn’t to confirm this).

[SwaggedGode]

your theory is not official too i just find osme one readed the manga who said you can increase the power of ssj forms like full power beyond that so pretty much you dont know about it and you still dont know nothing about god form pretty much your comment is not offical too so?

[FlamesWrath]

SSJG is quicker. It’s been stated. Watch DBS episode 105. Goku was fighting a faster foe than himself in SSJGSSJ. Due to that, he used SSJG to catch up to this foe then transform into SSJGSSJ to do more damage.

Please watch the series before you make bullshit ideas.

Also why are you trying to prove your point by talking about Youtube theories? Never trust those.

• This reply was modified 7 years, 6 months ago by FlamesWrath.

[Epsolon]

Incorrect SSG is faster than ssj and He used SSG so he didn’t have to be in blue form before he attacked maybe u should go back and reread that dialog FlamesWrath and to the ppl denying that blue is stronger than red are fucking stupid when the show and manga say blue is stronger and if ppl dare say retarded shit like “the manga isn’t canon” you’re fucking wrong. Both the manga and anime are canon just think of them as different versions. Anime is done by toei and the manga is done by Toyotaro

[FlamesWrath]

The Manga and the Anime are two different versions. I’m using the Anime version since that’s the one most people have watched. Its debatable if the Manga is canon so that’s just a minefield.

Also when did I say SSJ was slower? I said SSJGSSJ which is SSJB. (I just prefer SSJGSSJ myself).

During the fight with Dyspo, Goku used SSJG to close in on Dyspo (Due to SSJG being quicker). Then he used SSJGSSJ to hit Dyspo and do more damage. That’s what occured.

[Jasper Engel]

Anyone who has common sense knows that SSB is stronger then SSG, just watch super or read the manga it’s pretty obvious

[IAmRaptor]

Well the fact that both paper and anime are canon is quite annoying. I mean it wouldn’t be if the differences weren’t this big, if they were meaningless as in DB/DBZ.
That makes impossible to make a solid theory if you try to take both versions in count. And if you Conclusion: don’t make theories about DBS. That can never be completly right or wrong. And since they ain’t givin’ a shit don’t hope that Toei will one day decide of the truth.

[SinDragon0891]

This page is cancerous and a fucking half!

[SwaggedGode]

i dont want to say nothing right now i see too much cancer to respond Shenron.EXE STOPPED it wont continue

[FlamesWrath]

But you’re the one who’s causing the cancer.

[SwaggedGode]

flameswrath wrong i’m, not the one who is bringing all this unnecessary doing all this as I said ssjg is stronger and people you proved my point, to be honest. that means its STILL better in some way so can we stop fight now?

[Gohamit]

if you re watch the golden frieza arc you will si that goku states “this form (blue) is a super saiyan god who went super saiyan ” so its clearly stated that blue is stronger than god

[Gohamit]

if you re watch the golden frieza arc you will see that goku states “this form (blue) is a super saiyan god who went super saiyan ” so its clearly stated that blue is stronger than god

[SwaggedGode]

if you watched the tournament saga you would know that HE used ssjg to get specific stat bonus that blue doesn’t have

[Gohamit]

no he said that god is faster than super saiyan (not blue) but not as draining as blue.
blue is still faster than god just drain more

[SwaggedGode]

correction whis said that and ssjg should be able to to transform into blue and then turn back to ssjg without transforming again

[Gohamit]

this is just inconsistency as you can see from the 1 fight against jiren that he went ss1 then ss2 then ssg then back to base and to blue

[SwaggedGode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf1JZuevPH8

[Gohamit]

as i said its inconsistency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDXu54RRfyw

• This reply was modified 7 years, 2 months ago by Gohamit.

[Trevor Butrum]

Truee

[SwaggedGode]

he can do it if he wants to also let’s not forget its for the scene effect he could easily transform into blue tbh and its proven so your point is invalid

[Shinji]

Wth is this thread

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