New Dragonball Saga & More

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  • #44317

    Mister_Pinocio
    Participant

    I have decided to announce that I am currently making a new Dragonball saga. What is different with this saga is that not only will I be including Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball Super, and Dragonball GT; but you can also choose whether you want to follow the DBGT or DBS storylines once you beat the DBZ sagas (Both will be included as beefed up, and lengthy side quests for those who want to do both lines without restarting the entire saga).

    —I also want to say this before I continue: This is a WIP as of this post. It is a side project that I am working on occasionally and not constantly, meaning that it will not be released any time soon, maybe even not this year(explanation below).—

    Along with this saga I will be making custom models for ALL of Dragonball, and some for Z, Super, and GT. These models, like my others, will be open source. As long as credit is given people can use them for anything they need.

    While not required, I will make a map tailored to this saga. This will likely take several months on it’s own, so if enough people get behind this project I will release the saga and models without the map and then release the map when it is done.

    I will be releasing the models on the current thread for them(Linked at the bottom) so if you want to look at the progress, or even use them yourself you can take a look there. As far as mods will go the only required mods as of right now are DBC and it’s dependants as well as DBASkins, since A: They have a lot of models already which will lighten my work load. And B: I have made some models for them which they requested I not make open to the public, an agreement I plan to honor, so I won’t be making a mod with said models in it. And unless DBASkins uses my open source models I will be making a mod with my own models, and maybe some other things.

    If enough people are on board with this idea I will release a few “demos” using placeholder mobs so people can give me some feedback. Other than that I have nothing else to say for now, I’ll try to keep this thread, as well as my models thread, updated with my recent works.

    DBC Custom Models: http://main.jingames.net/forums/topic/dbc-custom-models/
    DBASkins: http://main.jingames.net/forums/topic/dbc-extended-saga/

  • #44324

    SuperKami_Netsu
    Participant

    Nice! Just a suggestion for your future models though, they need to be a child on the head in order to move properly when animating. A lot of the models you made I tinkered and that was one thing I did for when my mod gets a full, cnpc compatible, update.

    • #44325

      Mister_Pinocio
      Participant

      Thanks for the tip, I’ll be sure to fix them when I get the time.

  • #44345

    Mister_Pinocio
    Participant


    This is how far I am in the saga. I have been trying to add as much of the story as I can but I may slim it down later, as most of the missions are text crawl.


    A VERY early version of the map. I originally made it 12k x 12k blocks in size, but I shrunk it down to 5k x 5k for countless reasons. The main one being that it took over an hour to go from one end of the map to the other end.

  • #44346

    Mister_Pinocio
    Participant

    Despite the project being new, I decided to make a poll so I don’t have to change more than I have to later.

    https://forms.gle/S9gbSGGqCpT51Y7TA

    This is a poll for how much of the story you want to be in the saga. Right now I am making DB very story intensive, but once I hit Z and onward, I will try to focus a little less on the story.

  • #44362

    Vikorus
    Participant

    You are making full dragon ball map with all builds and full saga with extra mods npcs?

    • #44369

      Mister_Pinocio
      Participant

      That’s correct, although it will likely take many months as I am currently working solo on this project.

    • #44385

      SuperKami_Netsu
      Participant

      My team has been working on a similar project involving a map. Taking a while though and no screenshots have been released as of currently.

  • #44370

    Mister_Pinocio
    Participant

    The majority of votes are asking for a story based saga, so that is what I’ll deliver.
    Although I may be making this saga story heavy I won’t be forgetting that dbc is about fights, so don’t worry about not being able to fight as much. I’ll be sure to add as many fights as I can without degrading the quality too much.

    As for if the story will be linear, I will try to make a few branching paths (Other than the super and gt lines, that is) that will give the player a bit more control over their story. I can’t guarantee this will make it into the final product but I will try my best.

    I will also release a little demo after a bit more tweaking, of course I don’t have all the models done yet so in the demos everyone will be Nappa for now.

  • #44654

    Mister_Pinocio
    Participant

    Been a while since any updates, huh?

    I have decided to release a little demo for the saga so people can test out the first part of the saga and give feedback. This is an outdated version of the saga so a few things have changed since I made this version but it is still mostly the same and will give the same general experience. This demo goes up to the end of the first W.M.A.T. so not everything I have made is included yet, as more demos come out I will release more and more of the prototype story.

    As a note, in this saga you do NOT replace Goku but rather become one of the main/primary characters for the story alongside Goku and the others.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/8oxltqqfokpohia/mainDBC.json?dl=0

    If you have any feedback, positive or negative, please post it here as I am looking for ways I can improve the saga.

    That is all for now, progress right now is slow but I will try to keep you guys updated on my works. You can expect the next update to be when I either get to the Piccolo jr. saga, or finish Dragon Ball and start working on DBZ.

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    P.S. As time progresses I will be putting out polls for you guys to participate in. I feel like I should be making more chances for community input so this can be as well made and entertaining for the DBC community as I can make it.

    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by  Mister_Pinocio. Reason: bad spelling, plus a PS
  • #44759

    Mister_Pinocio
    Participant

    I have a few polls here, they aren’t needed right now but I decided to send out these ones early so I know where to let this story go ahead of time.

    Poll #1: https://forms.gle/B6uiWgewMvXB1kbF7
    This poll is about whether your character dies and goes to King Kai’s planet.

    Poll #2: https://forms.gle/zMLK5APSD8ECRKo6A
    This poll asks if you guys want some missions to require super forms. It isn’t important to the story but I want to get this one out of the way.

    Poll #3: https://forms.gle/E9jcxzd6n48aJpDr5
    This poll determines the strength and cost of super forms. While I will work on the balancing myself rather than take suggestions but you can determine if super forms are weak and cheap, balanced between strength and cost, or strong and expensive.

    As for the map I’ve been making little progress but I do have a WIP of the WMAT arena I can show off right now.
    wmat

    I don’t have anything else to show off for the moment, since I have yet to touch the models and I am still working on the story. I’m not too experienced with storytelling but I’ve been trying to keep close to the dragon ball storyline while still adding and changing events based on your character. I’ll be making a few more polls as well as progress on the saga, so the next update should have something more substantial in terms of saga progress.

    • #44760

      Mister_Pinocio
      Participant

      “Poll #3: https://forms.gle/E9jcxzd6n48aJpDr5
      This poll determines the strength and cost of super forms. While I will work on the balancing myself rather than take suggestions but you can determine if super forms are weak and cheap, balanced between strength and cost, or strong and expensive.”

      “While I will work on the balancing myself rather than take suggestions but you can determine if super forms are weak and cheap”

      O O F

    • #44761

      5
      Participant

      yo, just a tip, if you’re starting from dragon ball, making balanced weak-ish transformations is basically impossible. It’s just the way stats and TP works – a 1.5x multiplier, for example, won’t mean anything when you yourself can easily multiply your stats that much with a much smaller amount of TP, and since your story is roleplay based, the early transformations wouldn’t have any effect on combat. The TP gaining system is pretty iffy and hard to scale late game, especially when combined with the attribute TP cost configs which are underwhelming. It’s kind of hard to explain, but for some reason it’s just how DBC works. Anyway, unless you’re making a custom training system with stats being individually upgraded by CNPC missions and completely drop the TP system, it would be insanely hard to pull off something like that and would take tons of testing.

      Also, don’t rely on polls for things like configs – usually people don’t know how the config balance of your custom world works, since, y’know, they aren’t the ones that made it. Test around, maybe even play through and you’ll see what works and comprehend the mistakes way more easily. That would take some time though, lol

    • #44762

      Mister_Pinocio
      Participant

      I didn’t plan on making transformations accessible until Z. So unless someone decided to grind on hostile mobs or try to use training missions (which only appear in the latter half of DB anyways) they won’t be able to get enough Tp to get any transformations. Even if they somehow got enough Tp for Kaioken they could have already been in DBZ. I do see what you mean when you say balancing is going to be a nightmare though. Tbh that is likely going to take the most time, especially since I’m working solo on these for right now.
      As for the polls about configs, I wanted to see what most people preferred and take that into account when balancing the configs and writing a story. I will try to go with the majority but if it doesn’t end well I’ll adjust it to how I see fit.

  • #44771

    TheLeinhart
    Participant

    Looking at your configs I noticed the Accro God form is weaker than the Ultimate form in the damage multiplier. Not sure if that is intentional or just an oversight. I know it’s hard to get things right for a map or story line as I’m doing something similar myself. Just not as extensive as what you’re doing at the moment.

    I pushed my config settings to allow people to have the power to turn super saiyan (if they chose saiyan race of course) with a minimal of 300k in power level. Far as god forms, fusion, and UI, I have the tp cost insanely high to the point it’s impossible to get them. Only through a npc quest can they unlock it if they want it. Still adjusting things myself as people have taken one of the very few training missions to get forms higher than the saga I have them in. Guy has SS3 form in my Cell Saga because he wanted the form….yet weaker than my Full Power SS form.

    Look forwards to the completion of your map and story. Good luck and keep at it man!

    • #44772

      Mister_Pinocio
      Participant

      That was intentional, I may change that later as I haven’t tried to balance any of the SFs yet but I’ll try to get to that before I enter the Namek saga.

  • #44792

    Kakkarot
    Participant

    Man, thanks for the huge contribution I’m really glad this community didn’t die yet and I’m proud of it’s members.Thanks again!

  • #44794

    Mister_Pinocio
    Participant

    die

    y’all really wanna die to Raditz that badly?

  • #44833

    TheLeinhart
    Participant

    I guess people wanna experience the saga through and through. Would be kinda awesome to do and end up traveling snake way and actually get entangled by princess snake, accidentally fall off and end up having to race those devils to come up through king yenmas drawer, and run all the way back down snake way to the tail again lol

  • #44836

    Mister_Pinocio
    Participant

    I guess so, I kinda figured that having your character glued to Goku through all the major events would be kinda boring and unoriginal though.

    • #44837

      TheLeinhart
      Participant

      maybe do another poll to see if people want a mixture of following goku and going your own path, or just a follow goku path, or do you own thing while following the story.

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